Matjaz and Emanuele Marini met and they are scratching their heads over the problem about how to transcend the theory of objects. Well, if you have got just formal conditions, these will not tell you yet what a right or wrong action may be. Things are expanding and you come to strivings and values, all still wrapped up in straight-jacket of the theory of objects. By pushing things in direction of substance and evidence problem, you can get conditions for hitting the reality. Compare determinables that may be characterized outside the world and are vague, with determinates, where worldly realization of events comes with their conscious sharpness.
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